He definitely is. <3
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3000 is a big number but not really. Remember a couple months ago a lot of the community wanted to mint 20,000 Yfi giving 10,000 to liquidity farming locusts and another 10,000 to an inexperienced Dao.
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Consider that right now, only 6k is staked in governance.
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Letās not force this on Andre at present. I agree that when he does ask for direct YFI comp then it should be discussed and a solution handled, at that time. Doing it prematurely however can be jarring and an unwanted distraction tbh.
And this isnāt about the voting rights either. Anything Andre says will be prioritized by YFI Holders and most likely, in large part, rubber-stamped after thoughtful discussion.
Sometimes it is best not to force something upon someone who is not looking for it at that particular time. Letās cross this bridge when Andre wants to.
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Andre could essentially name his price when he so desires and the community would pay him an extraordinary amount to stay on board. He shouldnāt expect the community to guess this number and it should happen when he decides he needs to bring it up.
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And Andre himself submitted the proposal to ensure no more YFI could be minted lulz.
Which btw, yāall should go vote for here now:
https://snapshot.page/#/yearn/proposal/QmXywy67BG2rMwaMnfWWP5op6MWPdYUU3RPxD38WdxkN57
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Letās mint to get number back to 30k, and vest it to Dre. Then burn keys as per Burn YFI minting ability permanently
If we then want to incentivise additionally, letās do it via the Treasury, through community YFI holdings. Will require parting with your YFI instead of diluting YFI value via supply increases.
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Iām all for fair compensation, but at current prices 3000 YFI is 120M, which could easily become 1.2B.
How about no?
This proposal is ludicrous in the amounts chosen, besides the fact that ANY additional minting of YFI would be seen as a death stab.
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This thread to me has vibes of emotional campaigning. The inflationists are playing at your heart strings. Consider not immediately calling those opposed chumps. Everyone wants to compensate Andre. And most of us also wanted to burn the minting keys long ago so people like you cant spring up every 5 months: now print for banteg, now klim, now trac, now andre again, then just for fun ,then for charity
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Iāll repost what I said in another thread recently:
From a protocol integrity standpoint, we should mint at least some more YFI. YIP 0, which was proposed by Andre, passed. That YIP called for inflation. I voted against YIP 0 at the time, the vote was close, but I lost. Rejecting that vote sets a bad precedent and suggests that votes do not have consequences. To give meaning to YIP 0 and the voting process in general, we should mint some additional YFI. It can be 1 YFI, 1000 YFI, or something else. The point is there was a vote and it should be respected and implemented. I would then suggest we put all the minted YFI in the treasury for whatever future uses we vote for and then immediately burn the minting capability.
This would put meaning behind an earlier vote but also put a hard cap on the amount of YFI. The minted YFI couls be put in treasury andcould be spent on any of these things the inflationists want or could be burned, distributed to holders, or used to support the protocol.
I cant believe this discussion is even ongoing, and Iām slightly embarrassed this appears in our newsletter. Fewer than Few understand!!! Who are these bleeding hearts? No fortitude, no fire, and completely lacking the Yearn vision. Lord of Mercy - FORWARD! FU
Thank God Andre made the burn proposal and this can all end very soon.
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Letās make sure to give the man whatever makes him happy. Maybe a friendly nod in the street, or your YFI rewards for a month when the protocol matures and rewards increase.
But probably donāt mint coins. Iām quite confident that would go against what the man has tried to build.
Indeed, the proposal to make it impossible to ever mint YFI again has been made, by Andre himself. Letās make him proud. Learn about Yearn, marvel at the vision, and if you can, reward the man by making him happy.
It sounds like this proposal was born from the best self-sacrificing intention, but for deeper reasons finds itself misguided. Learn Yearn, itās fun 
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Andre also proposed YIP 0 (which called for YFI inflation). It passed.
Andre also proposed a transferable governance token (gYFI), and as a group we basically rejected it without adequate discussion.
I donāt know the full context for those proposals. I can agree youāre bringing examples of Andre implying being interested in some other, perhaps even contradicting option. However, neither refutes the fact he submitted a proposal days ago that permanently destroys the ability to mint new YFI.
Are you suggesting we go directly against his own proposal in an effort to give him what he wants 
?
Actually, I am proposing that we consider the issues, particularly involving minting and burning the minting capability, carefully and do not adopt a proposal simply because Andre proposed it. I voted against inflation at the beginning (on YIP 0), but I lost. If votes are to have meaning and if we are going to be seen as fair and governed by majority votes and fair rules, we should consider giving affect to YIP 0. After that we should burn the minting capability.
Iām not saying we should blindly do what Andre says. I feel like youāre not engaging with the point Iām trying to communicate. Unless you do, I donāt think thereās much point in continuing our back and forth.
What is this proposal about if not helping Andre? Does it help Andre to go directly against what he proposes? Please show an error in that logic or letās move on and find another way to make him happy (:
I think we actually agree for the most part. I would burn the minting capability as Andreās most recent proposal calls for. But before that I would mint some additional YFI and put it in the treasury. This would also give affect to Andreās very first proposal (YIP 0, which prevailed) and establish YFI as a protocol with the utmost integrity ā which should be something all of us, including Andre, should aspire to.
Well, fair enough! It still looks like the burning will happen sooner, and even if it could be done in time, group sentiment seems pretty strongly against. Nevertheless, we indeed seem to agree in spirit 
. Letās keep that up, and make sure he and those close get well rewarded 
.
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Oh come onā¦ Almost the whole community was ready to inflate to 50k and few were complaining. These conversations are important to have imo. Inflationists will always have a crazy uphill battle in convincing holders so I really donāt see the issue. No one is saying print for devs, charity etc. we are talking about the guy who made most of us ridiculous amounts of money. Iāve personally shifted and would prefer to fund YFI for Andre through market buys vs. minting but that doesnāt mean itās a bad discussion to haveā¦
Also, charity is important and Iām personally proud of the Yearn contribution to the gitcoin grants. Not all roi should be measured on the immediate impacts in our pockets.